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An excerpt from the in-depth On Being conversation between Devendra and Krista about Pema Chödrön’s book When Things Fall Apart.

Devendra Banhart is a visual artist, musician, songwriter, and poet. His albums include Ma, Mala, What Will We Be, Smokey Rolls Down Thunder Canyon, and Cripple Crow, among others. His book of poetry is Weeping Gang Bliss Void Yab-Yum.

Listen to the whole produced show — and learn more about Devendra’s music and work — here.

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An excerpt from the in-depth On Being conversation between Ross Gay and Krista Tippett.

Ross Gay is a professor of English at Indiana University. His books include the poetry collection, Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude, and a book of essays, The Book of Delights. He co-founded The Tenderness Project together with Shayla Lawson.

Listen to the whole produced show here.

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An excerpt from the in-depth conversation between Bryan and Krista.

Bryan Stevenson is the founder and executive director of the Equal Justice Initiative in Montgomery, Alabama, and Aronson Family Professor of Criminal Justice at New York University School of Law. He is the author of The New York Times bestseller Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption.

Listen to the whole produced On Being show — and learn more about Bryan, his work, and his writing — here.

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Listen to Krista’s entire On Being conversation with Maria Popova here.

This Delve is an excerpt from Krista’s On Being conversation with Maria together with Natalie Batalha. Find the whole produced show — and learn more about each of their work and writing — here.

Maria Popova is the creator and presence behind Brain Pickings, which is included in the Library of Congress’s permanent digital archive of culturally valuable materials. She is the author of Figuring and hosts “The Universe in Verse,” an annual celebration of science through poetry, at the interdisciplinary cultural institute Pioneer Works, in Brooklyn.

Natalie Batalha is a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California at Santa Cruz. She served as the project scientist for NASA’s Kepler mission from 2011 to 2017.

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An excerpt from the in-depth On Being conversation between Naomi and Krista.

Naomi Shihab Nye is the Young People’s Poet Laureate through the Poetry Foundation and a professor of creative writing at Texas State University. Her recent books include The Tiny Journalist, Voices in the Air: Poems for Listeners, Cast Away, and Everything Comes Next: Collected and New Poems. She received the 2019 Ivan Sandrof Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Book Critics Circle.

Find the whole produced show — and learn more about Naomi’s work and writing — here.

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An excerpt from the in-depth On Being conversation between Ocean and Krista.

Ocean Vuong is an assistant professor of English in the MFA Program at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. He is the author of the poetry collection Night Sky with Exit Wounds, which won the T.S. Eliot Prize and the Whiting Award; and a novel, On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous. He was a 2019 MacArthur Fellow.

Listen to the whole produced show — and learn more about Ocean’s work and writing — here.

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“Enough of us see that we have a world to remake. We want to meet what is hard and hurting. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. We want to do that where we live, and we want to do it walking alongside others. We’re asking, where to begin.”

 

Question to Live

What brings you here?

 

Integration Step

Imagine the Possibility of Wholeness

Set an intention, a day and time when you will embark on the first course, Finding Replenishment.

 

Heart of the Matter

This app and its courses are an offering of companionship and strategies towards wisdom and wholeness inside ourselves and in life together — wholeness even as the world engages a story of fracture. We can walk forward in ways that are at once contemplative and pragmatic. We can seek balance and equanimity even as the ground beneath our feet continues to shift.

Courses carry you through a 6-7 week experience, a mini-retreat and learning adventure that is applied in the laboratory of life.

Krista Tippett guides the entire experience, bringing in the voices and teachings of wise and graceful lives she has engaged in conversation over the past two decades, with insights from spiritual wisdom to science, from poetry to social transformation.

Weekly Wisdom practice (10-15 minutes) anchors each course.

Pause ritual (2-4 minutes) contemplatively integrates wisdom practice across everyday interactions, building spiritual and moral muscle memory.

A supported practice of journaling is built into each offering, with questions to live and integration steps alongside course content.

Weekly in-depth episodes of the celebrated On Being podcast offer other opportunities for delving deeper with teachers or ideas, in a calm, dedicated space.

 

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“Beneath the hard skills and firm strategic priorities needed to resolve our greatest challenges lies the soft, fertile ground of our shared humanity. In that place of hard and soft is sustenance enough to nourish the entire human family.”

Question to Live

Who has accompanied me in rising to my best self?

 

Integration Step

“Like flowers breaking through granite, I’m going to choose hope every time.”

 

Heart of the Matter

The invitation here is two-fold. First, to flex the moral imagination of your hope muscle. The questions we instinctively ask of “what to do?” in western culture are questions of what and when and how much. Those are the serious hard questions we value and act on. Moral imagination calls us to ask why, and to what human purpose? And also, how much is enough?

And the other calling here, the other invitation, is to get accompanied. Find others to walk alongside. Find others to walk alongside you. You don’t have to ask those questions alone or answer them alone or live them alone. In fact, if we try to do this transformation alone, it simply will not work. As Jacqueline says, these new ways of being, this new sensibility, has to be embedded within the structures themselves. This is a real shift, but taking it in really, truly, is a relief.

Something can be created where people can remain whole and can grow and face what goes wrong, as well as what goes right, but not be alone and not be depleted. Or, certainly, be depleted at times, but have that well of friendship and support and being surrounded that means that there will be replenishment all along the way.

 

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“We are dealing with so much bad news, horrible news. And there is also so much beauty happening in the world right now and so many people who have shown up. … We have been living in a time of such scarcity and austerity and zero-sum. This is not what we were meant for as human beings.”

 

Question to LiveWhat is causing me to despair right now, and where am I finding hope?

 

Integration Step

What would you have to give up or soften in what feels habitual right now, to cultivate a “yes, and …” orientation? Ponder that. Practice what you discern.

 

Heart of the Matter

“We are dealing with so much bad news, horrible news. And there is also so much beauty happening in the world right now and so many people who have shown up. … We have been living in a time of such scarcity and austerity and zero-sum. This is not what we were meant for as human beings.”

 

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“We somehow always find new mysteries.”

Question to Live

Does Mario Livio’s wonder create spaciousness in my sense of the possible?

 

Integration Step

Take in the mystery and majesty of being alive now — cosmically speaking, scientifically seen — and feel how this can power a reality-based, worldly hope.

 

Heart of the Matter

It is so fascinating to think about what Mario Livio points out — that even as everything we’re discovering puts us into perspective, makes us smaller and smaller in the grand scheme of things, we are central to it all. Our minds become more important, because our minds expand even as science expands, whether we know it or not.

The invitation here is to let in a sense of the cosmic mystery and wonder of being alive right now and see how that transforms our sense of our very ordinary selves, how much space this realization opens up for imagination and possibility, and again, real transformation, not mere change.

 

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“The way in which people live their lives and commit themselves — how they believe, what they engage in — those things are critical in shaping the human niche. … Those are evolutionarily relevant processes.”

Question to LiveWhat assumptions about evolution and essential human nature am I walking around with?

 

Integration Step

Become a little less riveted by “critical mass.” Look for “critical yeast” — small groups of unlikely combinations of people in a new quality of relationship.

 

Heart of the Matter

This is such a wonderful and freeing thing to be able to take in every once in a while, as Rebecca Solnit paraphrases Foucault: “We know what we do. We know why we do it. But we don’t know what [what] we do does.” We control our intentions, to some extent. We control our behavior. But we don’t control what that sets off in the world.

The other piece of what she’s saying that feels so resonant to me for us now is this notion that the earthquake shakes you awake, and then the question to live — how do you stay awake? Here we are, in a pandemic generation. Everything that we thought we knew for sure, so much of that was upended. We were called to so many questions and to learn edifying and deepening things about ourselves and others and the world. How do we stay faithful to those questions and to that learning?

 

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“‘Never let anyone be humiliated in your presence’ is a very powerful starting point because it means that you can’t be indifferent. You can’t be a bystander. You are implicated in what happens. And that’s really fundamentally the shift, I think, between being a spectator and being a witness.”

Question to LiveHow does the notion of hope as a moral choice settle in me?

 

Integration Step

“Never let anyone be humiliated in your presence.” Take that in. Carry it around. As you move through your day, notice when you default to being a spectator or a bystander. Commit to shift in some situation ahead to bearing witness instead.

 

Heart of the Matter

It is intriguing, this conjunction of hope and responsibility, and hope and moral choice, and hope as fuel for the long-term work of social repair. But also by this granular practice that Elie Wiesel taught and that was named here: “Never allow anyone to be humiliated in your presence.” That is an instruction that you can mull over and carry around and practice. And it would shift something.

And the context of that invitation is the larger invitation to bear witness — to move from being a spectator or a bystander to being a witness. And of course, that would have external implications, but it is, again, also initially an internal reorientation.

There is a narrative of our time, a trajectory of our time, of goodness, of generativity. And this language of “witness,” of this kind of visible, courageous orientation, is a wonderful image and practice to think about how to mobilize that.

 

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Listen daily until you move on to the next Wisdom Practice.

Journal with the ideas, the questions, and invitations raised. Pay attention to how these things surface in your thoughts, in your body, and in interactions and experiences as you move through your days.

Use the Question to Live and Integration Step as further prompts for practicing, and for journaling.

You’re building spiritual and moral muscle memory.

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There is a generative narrative of our time, and it is as real as the destructive story that is better publicized. In this generative story of us, we can see ourselves and others rising to the best of our humanity. It is possible to envision a future that we want our children to inhabit — all of our children — and to innovate the forms for that and build a life there.

 

Question to Live

How would I start to tell the generative story of the world I know?

 

Integration Step

Notice and take seriously the good in whom and what you give your attention to across the week: what is life-giving, fruitful, creative, replenishing, healing, sustaining. Journal about what that works in you.

 

Heart of the Matter

We are familiar with a story of our time of catastrophe and dysfunction, and that is real. But it is not the whole story of us. There is an ordinary and abundant reality in our world of people walking with forms that are broken, with a world that is in pain, with institutions that don’t make sense anymore — and finding ways to be of service, to have an edifying effect on the people around them, to be healers in so many forms, and to model and advance what it looks like when we rise to our higher humanity.

We are capable of beauty and joy and dignity and incredible creativity and community and care.

And, even with the magnitude of what is before us, we are equipped in a way previous generations of humans have not been with knowledge that can be a form of agency: to become more conscious, to become more aware, to act like the ecosystem the world needs us to be — sharing what we are seeing, finding ways to share what we are learning, joining our vulnerabilities, and joining our flourishing.

Calling out this reality, naming that there is a generative story of our time, is in fact a way to begin. Every time you take in the good, you are taking seriously the lifeblood, the raw materials of the generative story of our time. You are stepping onto that landscape more fully with your imagination and with your presence. And in so doing, you are making it more visible and more real in our world of so much pain and so much promise.

 

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The great challenges of this century are full of vast, aching, open questions. And our questions themselves can be taken up as powerful tools for living and growing.

 

Question to Live

What is a question I am holding in myself and for our world now, that I might choose to live?

 

Integration Step

Begin to pay attention to the power of questions as you go through your week. Note the quality of answers they elicit and if the question invites an opening or closing.

 

Heart of the Matter

“Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves as if they were locked rooms or books written in a very foreign language. Don’t search for the answers, which could not be given to you now, because you would not be able to live them. And the point is to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps then, someday far in the future, you will gradually, without even noticing it, live your way into the answer.”

This passage of Rainer Maria Rilke has become a discipline woven into the community of conversation and searching and living that is On Being. Like us, Rilke was a citizen of a young century with spectacular potentials for creating and destroying. His wisdom has never felt more directly useful and relevant than in the post-2020 world — that when we are faced with questions for which there are no answers or solutions, we are called to hold and live the questions themselves.

Our love for this teaching rests also on a reverence for the gravity and power of questions in human life. In life and in science, it is a deep truth that we are shaped as much by the quality of the questions we’re asking as by the answers we’re prepared to give. Those moments when a new quality of question arises carry discovery and previously unimagined possibility.

The invitation here is to engage the adventure of a new curiosity and reverence for the questions that are alive in you, the questions alive in the world that you feel drawn to. This exercise is intimate and civilizational at once. It can become a life discipline, a spiritual practice, with tangible and redemptive effect.

 

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There are callings for a life and callings for a time, and we are perhaps becoming equipped for nothing less than the possibility of wholeness — becoming whole human beings, creating whole institutions, inhabiting whole societies.

 

Question to Live

What are the vocations — callings — that ground, propel, and animate me?

 

Integration Step

Imagine the Possibility of Wholeness

Open wide your imagination, your heart, your energy, your will, to the possibility of wholeness. As you do, note the emergent ecosystems and wisdom you find even amidst fracture.

 

Heart of the Matter

Every surface of fracture in our world notwithstanding, all of life is being revealed in its insistence on wholeness: the organic interplay between our bodies, the natural world, the lives we make, the worlds we create. It is the calling of callings to make that vivid and practical and real, starting inside ourselves and with the lives we’ve been given.

 

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As we participate in the magnitude of change that is upon us, a long reality-based understanding of time — and of how change actually happens — can replenish our sense of ourselves and the world.

 

Question to Live

How am I, or can I be, critical yeast in the world that I can see and touch?

 

Integration Step

Map your 200-Year Present

Map your 200-year present. Feel that in your imagination, and in your body.

 

Heart of the Matter

Geological time, deep time, cosmic time, evolutionary time — all of those are interestingly akin to a religious, prophetic imagination: the long arc of the moral universe that Martin Luther King Jr. invoked. This is a way to speak of this young century we inhabit, this post-2020 world: we are in a Kairos moment as a species.

The beautiful and mysterious thing in all of this way of thinking and imagining, this way of cracking time open and seeing its true, manifold nature, is that this actually expands our sense of the possible in the here and the now. It sends us to work with the raw materials of our lives, understanding that these are always the materials even of change at a cosmic or a societal level.

This is echoed in many teachers and gifts of practice and of language: “evolutionary clusters”; “live human signposts”; the “quiet before”; “fractal emergence”; and “critical yeast.”

You might have to live the question of how to figure out what it means to be critical yeast in your world of friendship, neighborliness, work, community.

It’s waiting for you already in some part of the world you can see and touch.

The adventure is to make it more conscious.

 

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“I have to find those moments daily. It’s a struggle sometimes, to endure all of this stuff and to say, ‘Ah, there it is.’ Sometimes we have to recognize the joy that the world didn’t give us and the world can’t take away, in the midst of the world taking away what it can.”

 

Question to Live

What is joy for me? (Don’t overlook what is “common.”)

 

Integration Step

Seize opportunities in the course of your day to notice, and protect, the common, particular joys that sustain you — to say, “Oh, there it is.” And journal about what happens.

 

Heart of the Matter

It’s hard not to be inspired by Drew Lanham. It seems he’s in such a constant state of discovery, no matter how much he knows and learns. He so fully enters that backyard world of birds that gives him joy — the sound of it, the intricacy of it.

You might treat this session as an invitation to take in the natural world in the days to come — to see it very actively as a contemplative space, and being present to it as a life-giving practice.

But the underlying invitation here is to ponder what that joy is for you that the world cannot touch, cannot take away. Contemplate that and dwell with it and work with that awareness. Treasure it. Turn it into a practice that you protect and “hoard” as Drew says — finding those moments daily. And look for those moments in what is common, examining how seeing them as “common” may diminish their deep, abiding significance and nourishment.

 

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